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Generally, they don't use them for anything. Kind of cyberpunk LARPing or something.

They actually have a purpose, if you're in a role where you need to interface with a lot electro-mechanical stuff of varying vintage though. Basically ends up being a pelican case with a fat battery, a small network with short patch cables for reconfiguration on the go, two SBCs running windows IOT and linux, a PLC + 2/3 I/O cards, a CAN adapter and some space for 6 inches of terminal block on a DIN rail. Then a keyboard + monitor.

Maybe not as sexy as some people make but it is a cyberdeck/briefcase lab and it will allow you probe most distressed machines without having to waste time running around for supplies or back and forth to offices.

The way many manufacturers are structured however, there is too much red-tape and osha for this to be a reality for a lot of people, at least in the usa. It does exist in some places though.


That’s exactly what they’re supposed to be. The Flipper Zero is also a type of cyberdeck.

the rest of it makes sense but what's the PLC for?

Super Evil Shit™: https://www.controleng.com/throwback-attack-an-insider-relea...

More generally, there's a vast world of civil / industrial infrastructure controlled and monitored by SCADA / PLC networks - boring stuff, city scale water and sewerage, mineral processing plants, refineries, port loading, reserve tanks, pipelines, etc.

Regular technicians carry cyberdecks / portable work units that speak PLC alongside ethernet.


The feedback needs to go away or this thing is just exacerbating the problem. Give a slop score if you must but then shut up and let the user interpret the result as they see fit.

Slop is stopped by allowing unique quirks to flourish. Do you speak in 'staccato bursts'? THEN FUCKING WRITE IN STACCATO BURSTS! Do you need a 'throat clearing opener? THEN FUCKING USE ONE!

Human language does not need to take progressive steps toward some universal standard. Having one is fine, in theory, but the beauty lies in how we solve for our inability to consistently utilize it. Adding mechanism to every step removes the beauty. Stop being the problem.


Agreed. I ran some human-authored technical articles through this and most (all?) of the suggestions were just stripping the personality out of the writing. Kind of ironic.

Yepp.


You can do this via html/css without breaking the functionality.


To add to this fine suggestion, I'd like to highlight that Wander supports customising the appearance of the user interface.

The section https://codeberg.org/susam/wander#customise-your-console describes how someone setting their own /wander URL can customise how their console looks and behaves. I have seen a few consoles already using this feature to change their theme.

So while I will keep my console as it is, because that is how I prefer it, with large buttons occupying the full header width, others who prefer a different layout can do so by adding custom CSS as described in the link above.


Ah I see, I said nothing then :)


This is excellent. Thank you! I've now added it to my website (after restyling the console a bit to make everything match)!


What is really interesting is how many times this story has been posted previously without getting any traction?

Why is this time different? The poster, current geopolitical/technical climate or...


Sometimes a gui is helpful for things (such as monitoring) but you don't want to leave your terminal because it screws with your workflow.


>Founders have to focus on signal over noise. People who are not founders focus on... whatever.

This perspective seems extremely close minded, almost as if suggesting those who are not 'founders' (of silicon valley startups?) are incapable of rational thought or action.

There are many executives who have never 'founded' a VC backed company who would heartily disagree, not to mention all of the humans with other credentials who process information, make decisions and create value.


I just meant founders of any company, not necessarily SV ones. Sorry if it came off as very reductionistic, but I was trying to phrase things quickly and simply. If you're not looking for real life tips on how to build products and gain traction and stuff, then any topic is fair game. As online communities transform from niche-based places, to general purpose hangouts, the content can get watered down.


I think a whole lot of people forget that this is a discussion board run by a venture capital group.

I agree with the post, but don't find it surprising. If you have problems with companies these guys are invested in, probably find a different platform that they don't run?

Seriously, we could do this on IRC without hard gatekeeping...


You say gatekeeping like it's a bad thing; I wonder how much spam gets blocked by automated systems here.


This article doesn't relate to spam prevention as far as I can tell.

The author is concerned that content which would be valuable to the 'tech-scene' by virtue of demonstrable ability to gain traction quickly is being suppressed due to site owners wanting to avoid damaging their investments.


> Seriously, we could do this on IRC without hard gatekeeping...

I mean: We're all free to have a drink from the proverbial firehose any time we want.

It's right over here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newest


They aren't faster in the cases I know of. As an example, the Isle of Man TT Zero was discontinued partially because 2008 predictions of electric bikes reaching parity with gas by 2025 didn't pan out.

Even for small stuff, a minibike with a 212cc 4-stroke can have comparable performance to something like a Cake or Surron and is a fraction of the cost.

Personally I think the electric motorcycle market should try and max performance versus weight. Perhaps something pedal assisted that could hit 60 mph without too much fuss but light enough that it could be shouldered up a few flights of stairs. Range can be low, as in 10-15 miles per charge max but balanced by swappable battery packs.


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