About 3 years ago, a former russian submarine commander accused of a missile attack in Ukraine that killed 23 civilians, was shot and killed, apparently after his route was tracked via Strava
This provides a great cover for intelligence agencies to avoid disclosing their actual data source. Just point to Strava and hand-wave a little. Nobody will suspect that you actually had an in via a close associate of the target.
It’s called parallel construction in many related circles and is used on a daily basis even in communities like yours.
For example, do you have information obtained from illegal surveillance technology to know of an illegal activity happening in a house? Well, why not just ask very forcefully of someone facing inflated jail time, whether they happen to remember… after thinking really hard about it… having seen that illegal activity in that particular house they definitely have been in, to get the warrant approved by a judge.
Crazy to die because you used a jogging app. Really goes to show the value of privacy. And, you know, not committing war crimes that would make people want to hunt you down and kill you. Either or.
Location data is arguably more important than financial or medical data. Atleast in a context where someone is after you. Thanks to bribery and data brokers, it doesnt have to be anyone in Govt or LE tracking you. Collect certain identifiers from a device or account and you can track almost anyone. Financial and medical data access is certainly bad, but your location data can be used to orchestrate a stalking campaign or a murder in a deniable way.
It is why after the U.S. kills or captures some foreign leader, they brag about figuring out their routes and daily habits. It is not a stretch to say that it could also be done, and probably has before, in the U.S.
Extreme penalities should be put in place for any location data access without a court order... And your location should never be allowed to be sold or shared with any non court approved third party. It really is that serious and if the public had the bandwidth to be concerned over another issue, maybe something would change.
Who knows, maybe all the public needs to take it seriously are some real life examples of location data being used illegally...
Some countries make a citizen's residential address public under certain circumstances, i.e. business ownership. There's nothing you can do to erase it once it is registered. It really sucks because you may have a business that involves having a public product that is used by thousands of people. Any disgruntled user can look up where you live.
Hmm yeah but then I'm one of 80 million choices in my country. Committing war crimes tends to single one out.
I do really value my privacy but the problem is one doesn't control this very much.
Recently in Holland one of the major ISPs got breached and 6 million customers got their data leaked. This is something you can't take control as a customer and you're not going to move every time this happens.
Also, not too long ago we had this big book that contained everyone's address unless they opted out, just saying. Was even delivered for free yearly.
>Hmm yeah but then I'm one of 80 million choices in my country.
If we are talking about some sandom terrorist or something like that, yes.
But sometimes it's more personal despitethe fact that you did nothing wrong objectevly.
Jealocity (you got a girl and her ex. took it too close to heart), envy, disputes in an alterd stated (drunk figh). Etc.
My uncle (mother's side) has a schizophrenia and constantly threatens to find someone to kill me and my entire family (including his sister of course).
Yes? Why do you think I am American or do not find that utterly reprehensible? Downthread I even already said that it's obviously fair game for Iranians to hunt down any American officer they could kill.
Versus 15 Wikipedia links where in every one of those events 10+ civilians were killed — in some events even 50+ civilians killed in places like supermarkets, residential buildings, and railway stations - all you have is a Storm Shadow attack launched to strike one of the largest microchip producers for military hardware?
As I said, that's just a recent event that's fresh in my memory.
>killed in places like supermarkets
Oh, right, of course, all Ukrainian missiles that hit Russian civilians were off-target and all Russian missiles that hit Ukrainian civilians were targeting civilians. That's what western media and Ukrainian propaganda tells you
I have to call out this disingenuous mob like language which is basically saying "because this person served in the military of a UN Security Council member, it is justifiable to murder them in the street years into their retirement"
how is a submarine commander committing war crimes?
by the same way of thinking, it would be completely justified for people from many countries to show up at random US service members houses and shoot them in the street , or perhaps attack their embassies, commit suicide bombings...
You're so close to getting it! It turns out that terrorists don't hate Americans because they're jealous of the self-proclaimed greatest country in the world, they hate Americans because Americans commit crimes against their people.
I said nothing about whether it was justified, simply noted the state of reality in which you should probably avoid doing harmful things to others if you would like to not motivate them to harm you in return. Americans would absolutely benefit from doing fewer things to harm other countries if they would like to be targeted by fewer terrorists.
> how is a submarine commander committing war crimes?
News reports from both Russia and Ukraine stated he was the commander of K-148 Krasnodar, a submarine that at the time of his command engaged in missile attacks on Ukrainian cities.
From a BBC article:
> Ukrainian media has said he could have been in command of the vessel when it carried out a missile attack on the Ukrainian city of Vinnytsia in July 2022, which killed 28 people, including three children.
Also, it's clear that a military officer is obviously a legitimate military target in a war.
Who do you see as the “legitimate military target” in America due to America’s war of aggression on Iran? You imply it would be any military officer, anywhere, at any time, retired or not.
I am not at all sure what point you are trying to make, because I was not making any point. I was just asking a question to, I believe, suss out a point that is seemingly far closer to what you are saying than not. I was asking the question to make the person think, follow the logic to at least a a few steps, because the mentality that was being expressed is extremely reckless and dangerous, let alone criminally illegal, i.e., assassinating military officers hors de combat.
The problem humanity now faces is that one side in this conflict is extremely psychopathic and narcissistis that will do anything and everything to retain control and power.
Correct. The US assassinated Iran's leader and dozens of their military officers. Do you seriously believe Iran would somehow be in the wrong to kill any American officer it can?
It is eerie how closely the American mentality parallels that of the German regime. "The Nazis entered this war on the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody and nobody was going to bomb them."
I understand your sentiment, but all parties, including the Israeli state are signatories and have ratified the Geneva Convention, making the actions of Israel and it's American attack oaf (full disclosure, I am American, whatever that even still means) war crimes, and technically based on the precedent from the Nurenberg trial, makes the USA and arguably its accessory, Israel responsible and guilty of all war crimes due to initiating the illegal war of aggression, the "mother of all war crimes".
We are facing a far greater calamity than I get the sense most really have any understand for. Effectively all international institutions have exposed themselves as some variation of incompetent, shams, husks, utterly ineffectual, and even downright evil (e.g., condemning Iran essentially for being attacked) because the subordinated, pathetic vassal dungeon gimp countries and institutions are afraid and/or seek continued favor and the approval of their suzerain master/King.
I get the sense this is coming as news to you. But it was always this way, going back as far as international law has really been a thing.
The Nuremberg trials were a glorified kangaroo court, so obviously a sham that even a US Supreme Court justice voiced their opposition. They made a mockery of the concept of law, trying people for laws that did not exist at the time the alleged crimes were committed, and more to the point, even for war crimes that the US and Allies themselves also committed and did not prosecute themselves for. The concept of "war crimes" has never been anything more than a thin veil over winner's justice, dressed up nice and pretty to seem less barbaric. And, to be fair, the Nazis were unfathomably barbaric and earned barbaric treatment - I doubt many would particularly object to summary execution of high-ranking Nazis after the war. But the US turned its retribution into a massive propaganda coup about international justice, upon which it placed itself as the ruler of.
The US, of course, exempted itself from international justice. Ever. Not only does it not punish its own war criminals, it refuses to ratify any treaties like participation in the ICC that would give international accountability to its own soldiers for war crimes, and even further still, it signed into law an act that authorizes the invasion of the Netherlands if an American were ever to be tried at the Hague. Whatever you thought international justice was, for your entire life, has been a propaganda-laden sham. It never existed. The only thing that ever existed was winner's justice. The winners kill the losers at their pleasure. That's all it ever was. In the sense that there's a calamity, it's not because of the collapse of any international institutions, because they were always an illusion made to benefit the powerful.
> Only during 2025 russian forces launched over 54,000 long-range drones and over 1,900 missiles
This would be a lot more compelling of an argument if the Ukrainians were not trying to use social media to PsyOp the world into believing that life in Ukraine is going on as usual.
I could accept the idea that an election can’t be effectively fortified during a war, but if the war was as popular as the Ukrainian government wants me to believe, why are men barred from leaving the country and being abducted off the streets to serve as conscripts?
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/11/europe/russian-submarine-...
https://gijn.org/stories/investigations-using-strava-fitness...