It's ridiculous because LLMs are far more capable. There was just a thread on HN the other day where multiple people shared experiences being able to decrypt, reverse engineer, and update the firmware of some long forgotten embedded device with zero background in the field using LLM coding tools. And you're comparing that to a preset generator.
> In a world were it (and other Chinese open models) didn't exist, OpenAI and Anthropic would be profitable already
How so? The existence of e.g. DeepSeek doesn't lower the cost for OpenAI. OpenAI have almost a billion users, or so they claim. Adding even another billion users isn't going to help them, unless they can keep cost under control.
"You're on the team against me so I oppose everything you say".
Again it's the same problem - what you're doing. I'm not on "team OpenAI". I'm also not on "team deepseek". I'm commenting on how so much of the population is literally unable to see the world unless it is filtered through some "team" lens that they are for or against.
Judge the material based on what's in the material. Not as it boosting or hurting your "team".
The material in this article is crap judge it as crap and say so regardless of your team.
But here you look at my saying something negative about a post that is pro "team deepseek" so the only conclusion you're able to make is that I must be for the other team.
It's the inability to think critically that is astounding me here. So many opinion's people have now is now just "is it for team or against my team". They are unable to even think of anything else.
I wrote that entire post and you even said you couldn't understand it unless you put it through a lens of being for or against a team...
> Your area again making the same mistake as before.
> You are making the most passionate defense of team openai
At no point did I mention Openai, referr to openai or imply anything about openai (just mentioned your reference). Nothing I'm saying weighs in on any form of discussion or debate between Deepseek & Open Models vs OpenAI.
The fact that you are unable to separate those two is your failing, not mine. Your argument is the equivalent of the following:
A: Deepseek ran into a burning building last week and saved 10,000 orphans from a fire.
Me: No Deepseek did not save 10,000 orphans from a burning building last week. Regardless of what you think of Deepseek it didn't save 10,000 orphans. It's an LLM in a computer, not a humanoid robot - if you look at that for 2 seconds you see that claim is nonsense.
You: By attacking those supporting Deekseek you have declared yourself for team OpenAI and are clearly an OpenAI supporter!
Me: Saying deepseek didn't save 10k orphans has nothing to do with OpenAI. It is a lie saying that deepseek saved 10k lives. It's an LLM chat bot. Regardless of how anyone feels about deepseek - discuss it on it's merits not on bs.
You: See! You keep defending OpenAI you open AI shill! Stop passionately defending OpenAI!
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