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Well, this is because "normal" programming languages are one step above AST. So LLM has to work with program text, which is much easier than regular human text, as it is constrained to well defined number of keywords and grammar, but still this is pretty variable. Lisp is just AST, so it is one level lower. I guess that at some point LLM-s will stop writing human-readable code, as this is additional obstacle, they will work directly with binaries or virtual machines code (like in Java), because this will be easier and eat less tokens.

Soon, very soon, AI tools providers will figure that out. And rise prices accordingly.

How this is different from getting dedicated server from any other provider? Typically you need to pay a bit more - $40-$50 but you get more RAM and cores.

And what it has to do with the "cloud"? Cloud means one use cloud-provided services - security, queue, managed database, etc. and that's their selling point. This exe.dev is a bare server where I can install what I want, this is fine, but this is not a cloud and, frankly speaking, nothing new.


Well it's in the books. O(n^2) algorithms are bad in the long run, transformers algorithm has such complexity, so not a big surprise we hit the limits.

Maybe. The point is that in case of software it is fairly easy to verify if that what LLM produced is correct or not. Compiler checks syntax, we can write tests, there is whole infrastructure for checking if something works as expected. In addition, LLM are just text generating algorithms and software is all about text, so if LLM see 1 000 000 a CRUD example in Python, it can generate it easily, as we have a lot of code examples out there thanks to open source.

That's why LLMs shine in coding tasks. If you move to other parts of engineering, like architecture, construction or stuff like investment (there is no AI boom there, why?) where there is no so much source text available, tasks are not so repeatable like in software, or verification is much more complicated, then LLM-s are no longer that useful.

In software also I believe we will see soon that a competitive advantage have not those who adopted LLM, but those who did not. If you ask LLM what framework/language/approach use for a given task, contrary to what people think, LLM is not "thinking", it just generates text answer on the base of what it was trained on, so you will get again and again same most popular frameworks/langs/approaches suggested, even if there is something better, yet not that popular to get into model weights in a significant way.

Interesting times, anyway.


LLMs nowadays make aggressive use of web search. Thus they don't answer only on the base of what they were trained on.

I don't think they are much more prone to using only the same popular frameworks, especially if you ask them to weigh for options.


Why space data centers? What advantage this would have? Cooling will be a big issue, while it is easily solved on the planet earth, as we have water, air that can transfer heat away.


They don’t have any advantages at all.

People point to the cost of land, but if being physically inaccessible isn’t a problem, then there are lots of cheap places on Earth you can deploy data centres too at far lower cost than launching them into orbit.


For now there's a regulatory oversight advantage (or rather lack of same).


There’s a whole lot more oversight, from the radiocommunications and aviation safety regulators.

Desert land is free. Floating data centres in the middle of the pacific is free.

If a state, or even rich billionaire, wanted to take out your data centre in low earth orbit, it's only a few million dollars to launch a retrograde rocket which explodes into 10 ton of shrapnel, or even less to forget the orbit and just launch it directly up.


You can do the same to the ones in the Pacific and desert too.

It's a declaration of war much the same.


Defense systems in space need to be... in space.

I don't think people are looking at this the right way. They need to be inaccessible to terrestrial and air weapons, have lower latency, not be dependent on power plants, etc.


Far easier for someone like Iran or China or the US to take out an LEO satellite than an underground data centre, or even a surface on in the case of DCs in US or China.


It's also pretty easy to launch another one into orbit to replace it? I'm not sure I understand what you mean. We can have all these options simultaneously. The easiest targets are where the faster paced more offensive action is going to be.

People have been talking about waging war in space for many decades now. All the arguments for and against it were made a very long time ago, and it was decided it's a hell of a lot better that way. Even a nuclear blast in orbit is more tolerable.

Space superiority is just too damn appealing as the next frontier after land, air, and sea where we've been stuck in stalemate for a while. It's perfectly natural we go to space for this, including the datacenters.


I don’t think Iran has the capability to shoot down LEO satellites. Kind of weird to loop them in with China here other than China helping Iran.


You need about 2,500m/s delta V to reach LEO altitude. Iranian long range rockets are well in that range.

It's thus far easier for Iran to hit an LEO DC than one in Colorado


Are you suggesting for a fact that Iran as the guidance and targeting systems to identify specific LEO objects, and fire missiles at those targets with accuracy?

I'm saying that it's far easier for them to take out an LEO satellite than an underground data centre, or even a surface one, in the centre of the US.

Are you saying it's not?


I'm saying I don't think Iran has the capability and the difference in capabilities between America and China on one hand, and Iran on the other is so different that I'm perplexed as to why they would even be mentioned in the same sentence.

I'm actually not even sure your suggestion is true. Theoretically they don't need to launch a missile and could attempt to infiltrate a data center instead. They're secure but not that secure against a determined enemy with any amount of real training.


Iran has a space program capable of launching LEO satellites.

Launching LEO satellites is a different capability than shooting down LEO satellites.

Launching something into orbit is much harder than intercepting something because to intercept you don't need to reach orbital velocities. You can just go up and boom. The velocity of the target does the rest. Tracking it really isn't such a hard thing these days.

It’s not a hard thing, but you still have to have the capability to track objects and design a rocket with the capability to hit that object.

These aren’t capabilities Iran has. Certainly not anymore.


That's true, but they're also very vulnerable to ground based LASERs.


You don't have to buy real estate.


Land is pretty much irellevent in the cost.

The Utah Data Center [0] is a 200 acre plot with 35 acres of buildings.

Even prime farmland values is arround $10k an acre, or $2m, but for other land you're talking $400k for that much land [1]

It uses 65MW. The solar panels alone to generate that cost $100 per kW in bulk, or $6.5m.

That's 570GWh a year.

Mount Signal 1 Solar plant, from over a decade ago, produces about that currently. Total cost $365m [2].

Then there's the lifetime? What do you do in 36 months time when you want to replace the hardware with the latest generation? In an earthbound one you turn off the rack, remove the old kit, put the new kit in. In space, it just burns up in the atmosphere.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

[1] https://www.land.com/property/201-acres-in-brown-county-nebr...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Signal_Solar


Not for the data center, for the fiber lines.


Pretty much zero cost. Or just use your satellite capacity you'd use from your space based DC.

Zero cost to run fiber to every household on earth??

Zero cost to run fibre from a nearby IXP to your new data centre with $100m of equipment

>Cooling will be a big issue

a 1m2 at 70C radiates 785 Watt. Seems thet cooling will be more simple than on Earth.


A 1m2 heatsink/fan on earth can sink kWs. My heatpump is about 1m2 area and can sink 15kw. Seems earth is at least 20x times better.


If you build a pyramid with the base pointing to the sun (as solar), and a "height" about 5 times the base in constant shadow, with decent internal circulation, that will operate at sub-20C just from the two radiative sides pointing away from Earth (you make the earth pointing sides reflective)

Cooling isn't an issue.


in space 1m2 of thin metal will radiate those 785 watt. No fan, no heatpump, nothing. Only the launch cost. Which given the projected Starship launch cost will be cheaper than installation on Earth.


Switzerland is very liberal in terms of business-oriented regulations to the point that you could crate a new year party in a closed cellar without emergency exists, not to mention anti-fire installation and burn people alive there.


On the other side, people who were using, say, Perforce, also thought there can't be anything better. Still, BitKeeper appeared as an innovation in the area, eaten later by Git, created by angry Linus (because of BitKeeper licencing changes).

So, even though Git seems to be ok (people who store large binary files or who run huge monorepos would probably disagree), maybe we can do better.

Altavista was kind of okeish for search, yet Google managed to figure out something that was (at that time) way better.


Mainstream music was created for a good 20 years using the following process:

1. Do the survey/focus groups to figure out a hot topic for a song. For instance your exploration shows that 300K girls between 13 and 17 years old were left by their boyfriend, so there is a 300K market for a song about that.

2. Find someone or group who will sing the song. Something your target audience will identify. E.g. "rebellious teenager" (take Britney Spears), "we need a group that will attack larger target" - take Spice Girls - we take one black, one white, one Latino looking (doesn't have to be real Latino, obviously), one polite and nice, one impolite. You get the point.

3. Note: singer/group does not need to know how to sing, they need to move reasonably on the scene, the rest autotune and computers will handle easily.

So, given the process, AI singer is just a little bit different "music" production process, not so much different from the one used up to date except that you don't need autotune anymore.

Luckily there are still people who do music for the sake of doing music and it really stands out as compared to 80% of fodder for listeners that is on YT, radio, Spotify.


So, I've looked on alternatives to iPhone. The "little" problem is that if I use online banking in Europe I will not be able to use most of them as a bank required 2FA.

Another funny thing is that they offer as an alternatives China produced phones (most "Nokia" models that does not have anything to do with original Nokia brand), as if supporting Xi regime was somehow better than buying in USA.

LibeOffice as a replacement for Office365 only shows that the site authors does not know what is Office365.

Vivaldi is great, I am using it, but it is built on Chromium, which is definitely not an European thingy...


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