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People with guns are significantly more likely and capable to commit crimes. Open carry in many social circles is like walking around in prison tattoos.

Source: http://www.cjcj.org/uploads/cjcj/documents/jpj_firearm_owner... As this study points out no database of US gun ownership exists, which makes these studies harder to carry out.

PS: Police are also a surprisingly violent group. Still unlikely to randomly shoot someone, but as a rational risk assessment they rate much higher than many groups like young kids.



  People with guns are significantly *more likely* and capable to commit crimes
That is not at all what that paper actually says.


“The results of this study suggest that a decrease in prevalence of firearms has the potential to decrease violent crime in the United States.” and it’s including quotes like that the common saying “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” should be amended to “guns don’t kill people, they just make it real easy.”

Also, “In 2008, 67% of all homicides involved the use of a handgun, shotgun, rifle, and other firearms (Vito & Maahs, 2012).” Which is much higher than their normal prevalence among the general population. “Azrael, barnett, and Miller (2004) estimated that about 40% of households in the United States own at least one firearm.” With 67% being much larger than 40%.

In what what does that disagree with what I said?


None of it agrees with what you claimed. These are all different metrics you are trying to conflate into what you want them to say. Homicide is a tiny percentage of overall crime.

People who are legally eligible to own guns are far less likely to commit crimes because by definition felons, those illegally present, etc. are automatically excluded from that population.


People with penis are significantly more likely and capable of committing rape. They are everywhere!!!

This is how your argument reads to me. Disclaimer: I live in a country with very strict gun control laws (East European, former Communist block. This is how they implemented it.)


I am talking about why people might be uncomfortable not nessisarily about changing the law.

I got plenty of negative responses as a tall and very strong young man. That bothered me even if I understood the reasons for it.

People react negatively to guns and physical fitness for rational reasons. I might like shooting and being physically strong, but that’s no reason to discount reality.




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