>After 30 hits (so 30 false positives), and then the photos are manually reviewed by a human being. How did people never understand this? How on _Earth_ would people's live be randomly destroyed by this?
Don't be naive, the governments will demand that matches on the "special" hashes will be reviewed by local government people.
There is a similar feature in the "child safety" package that scans for stuff in chat messages and probably (maybe soon) in documents that are received ), so the code is in place to have an uninstallable "antivirus/antiCSAM/antipiracy" on your device that you must trust both Apple and your goverment that does what is promised but 100% you can't just delete the executable to have piece of mind.
> Don't be naive, the governments will demand that matches on the "special" hashes will be reviewed by local government people.
Seriously, if a government is after you, they will get you regardless of the content of your phone. In a country with decent laws, just a match is woefully insufficient to demonstrate someone’s guilt, and they will need some proof. In other countries, laws do not matter so they can just get you without issue. They have done it for quite a long time and are doing it today.
All of this also points to the complete absurdity of this mass hysteria: it is insane to ruin someone’s life just because they have a picture on their device. It is just thoughtcrime, at this point.
>All of this also points to the complete absurdity of this mass hysteria: it is insane to ruin someone’s life just because they have a picture on their device. It is just thoughtcrime, at this point.
But it happened, some guy was falsely accursed because someone made a typo in an Ip address, he lost his job and he was forcefully kept away from his wife and children.
>Seriously, if a government is after you, they will get you regardless of the content of your phone
That is false, for example before 1989 listening to a certain radio station was illegal here in Romania but the government could not ask the guys the made the radio to give them a list with all people that listened to this radio station.
Your claim is that the govberment knows my name and what I did they can fuck me up, that is true but this imnplies the gov already knows and has the proof, in this case without the file scanner they won't know I own political/religions materials that is illegal but after the file scanner runs and reports me , only then I am on the gov list.
I hope is clear, tech makes the job of the bad gov easy, so in this case you as a random user you gai nothing from your device scanning for CSAM but many lose from this, the question is why if you gain nothing and this can be done with a simple iCloud scan? (because for sure it will be extended to private messages and documents)
> so in this case you as a random user you gai nothing from your device scanning for CSAM
This makes it seem like there is no upside at all to the CSAM scanning. There is: we stop more folks peddling child porn, hopefully making a dent in the problem.
>This makes it seem like there is no upside at all to the CSAM scanning. There is: we stop more folks peddling child porn, hopefully making a dent in the problem.
Apple could have scanned iCloud from the start and prevent this problem if it is so big. If they are already scanning then there is no use for scanning on device only if iCloud is on and if they are not yet scanning iCloud then you should ask Tim why is he ignoring the problem, Google and Facebook already reported a lot of abuses, does Tim love CP?
Don't be naive, the governments will demand that matches on the "special" hashes will be reviewed by local government people.
There is a similar feature in the "child safety" package that scans for stuff in chat messages and probably (maybe soon) in documents that are received ), so the code is in place to have an uninstallable "antivirus/antiCSAM/antipiracy" on your device that you must trust both Apple and your goverment that does what is promised but 100% you can't just delete the executable to have piece of mind.