You'd want to 'lulz' and be rude to avoid the hipsters.
You may wish to have a little community with a better noise signal ratio, and you may use your README to scare the «serious» programmers that rely more about BS told on a website than on reading the code.
Still, I am not the targeted audience for their framework. I do not like their syntax.
This seems like some kind of bizarre/opposite logic to me. You think you'd get a better signal-to-noise ratio from the lulz crowd, and that non-'lulzy' programmers are more into (marketing?) BS than reading code? I am fascinated by this point of view.
Well, since CS due to good wages has attracted the hipsters that confuses their IQ with the price of their gadget, and that are in average better at communicating (with their so hype websites) than the average hectic programmers, you may want to filter them out, and make fun of them.
These self called geeks and gurus are best avoided in projects. I guess the hacked by China joke is like a filter.
Real programmers do it for fun. And they not only do it in few words, they also do it with 'finger'.
I guess, they are just doing a cultural handshake they try to filter out the morons by sending irrelevant information on one hand (the official website), and another one on the other hand (the doc is concise and clear).
For me it is a new divide in programming community: the infatuated hipsters self called geeks vs the mocking nerds.
For me it is the sense of the zed shaw's rant on rails, and of the readme and sites of javelin.
It sounds like you mean to imply that iOS developers and Ruby programmers are the hipsters, no? I'm not really familiar with the battle between "hipsters" and "real nerds" in the programming world. My experience has been the opposite of yours in that the lulz crowd is usually the more inexperienced group.
There are more dimensions here than just two. The two groups you've described co-exist with many other kinds of programmers. For example, Linus Torvalds is not a mocking nerd or a hipster. I would imagine that many programmers do not identify with the two groups you've described. There are groups of 'serious' and talented programmers, lulzy talented programmers, lulzy hipster programmers, and every combination in between. Shades of gray, as they say.
Linus cuts through the crap and no longer sugarcoats his responses. After having to deal with so many idiots day in and day out he just doesn't waste his time with it. I'd say that's different from the 'lulzy mocking nerd' that the parent commenter describes.
Yes, it is about ideas not words. You can learn the word, it does not forcibly tell you about the ideas. Especially the new one.
If a software has been done, buy it! It will be almost always less expensive than building it.
If it has not been done yet, no book or knowledge can tell you how to do it.
And if an idea you can code is new, you'll hardly have the word for it. It is easier to brag about «well (re)known ideas» than doing new stuff.
Colours you can't see are ideas we have not yet the word to describe them to those who can't see them.
What the fuck did I just read... the programming world is not defined by some childishly perceived game of US vs. THEM. Can you take this drivel elsewhere please?
Hipsters? Nerds? Geeks? These pointless monikers don't say anything about someone's true programming aptitude. You're doing yourself and everyone else a disservice by acting like that these stereotypes exist.
I don't suppose you could define your usage of the word "hipster" for me? Because I can't see how it fits with my understanding of the word. It looks to me like you're just using it as a generic insult meaning "people who like what I don't like".
I think in this context (and usually) hipster means "someone who pretends to like something new or unusual in order to broadcast their superiority." That's why everyone thinks someone else is a hipster -- it's a claim about sincerity. As in "I've always enjoyed Pabst Blue Ribbon because I like the taste, but that guy over there is just a hipster."
That's also why it's a pretty jerk thing to call someone on the internet. Hipster-slingers: you have no frickin idea why people like the things they like. But try assuming it's because they actually like them. It makes the conversation a lot more fun.
I guess I just got confused as I would never use the term that way myself -- as you say, "you have no idea why people like the things they like".
As such, if I were to say "hipster", I'd be referring to the subculture - the skinny-jeans/chunky-glasses/retro-t-shirt/coffee-shop crowd. Being a trait I can actually consistently identify in a person, rather than a trait I can merely assert the presence of without evidence.
+1 JackC // very nice definition. With a tinge of truth :)
I only visualize the people with their crappy and expensive earplugs and ipod telling how much they love music. And they seems to ignore how much their sound is distorded.
Hispters love the words and attitude and despise the knowledge. That's my definition.
You're doing exactly what JackC is talking about. You're deciding your way of enjoying and loving music is the only way and anybody who does it in a different way is an imposter. Ironically, by my definition, that makes you a hipster :))
I'll buy for minute that it makes sense to scare off everyone who relies on bullshit bingo websites. But then, why maintain a lulzy website at all? Wouldn't a non-hipster, however you define them, spend that effort coding instead?
But otherwise looks like a good effort.