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That was my attempt at rephrasing a sentence to be more clear in response to an accusation of waffling, I think.

Suffice it to say, point-by-point rebuttal exchanges/slap fights tend to not lead anywhere good, let alone in a comment section that's emotionally charged and personal from the outset.

In retrospect, I should've just left my original comment stand by itself rather than panic and dive into a detailed follow-on explanation which snowballed from there.

I was genuinely trying to post in good faith for positive effect while taking a middle tack that still condemned violence while perhaps humanizing some of the anger.

It didn't quite work out, but I do very much understand where the opposing positions were coming from now.

And, my apologies for swearing.

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You brought up a dynamic in the second incident's discussion touching on essentially redundant condemnation, where normal people don't bother because it's universally assumed that violence is bad.

Having closely watched the comment section unfold there, I see what you meant by that: it ends up being negative space for what you termed countervailing sentiment to expand within.

I think that was actually the first time I was happy to see a thread taken off the main page early, for everyone's sake.

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